Gypsy Pistoleros: Preaching to the Perverted – Welcome to the Church of Flamenco Punk Glam!

Interview with Gypsy Lee Pistolero

Lee Mark Jones – Interviewed by Adrian Hextall

They’re outsiders, rebels, maybe even heretics in the hallowed halls of rock ‘n’ roll. But Gypsy Pistoleros, led by the effervescent and ever-defiant Gypsy Lee Pistolero, wouldn’t have it any other way. With a killer new album ready to drop, a controversial ‘church’ concept dividing and uniting, and a running battle with the streaming giants, the flamenco punk glam saviours are back, louder and prouder than ever.

Talking to Gypsy Lee Pistolero (the man also known as Lee Mark Jones) is like mainlining rock ‘n’ roll chaos – in the best possible way. There’s passion, frustration, humour, and an unshakable belief in the band’s unique vision. Their latest album, titled ‘Church of the Pistoleros’, is already buzzing, a record Lee feels is “another level”, thanks in no small part to producer Dave Draper (known for his work with Ginger Wildheart). “He’s just a genius,” Lee enthuses. “And the great thing is now he’s not working with Ginger, he’s got even more time to work with us!”. 

Our review of the album is is here: 

The album’s release path, however, has been typically Pistolero – fraught with industry shenanigans. A potential deal with Earache Records fell through (“supposedly signing… then didn’t sign, then went back again to publish this release” ), followed by a detour with a management company pushing them down a “classic rock route which we’re not”. Back on their own terms, the build-up has been “ridiculous”, marked by multiple coloured vinyl releases – including a final “black with red and white splatter” variant which will be found in the band’s web store soon – and culminating in a sense of fevered anticipation from fans and industry alike.   

Join the Congregation: The Church of Pistoleros

Central to the new era is the audacious ‘Church of the Gypsy Pistoleros’ concept. Complete with opening and closing prayers on the album, stage props like the ‘Staff of Truth’, and even ‘Blessed Pagan Holy Water’, it’s a bold move. But Lee insists it’s not about forming a cult à la Jim Jones (Kool-Aid will not be on sale at gigs in case you’re concerned!). Instead, it’s about creating a community for the outsiders, the rebels, those who don’t fit the mainstream mould. 

“I wanted something… a rough concept for each album,” Lee explains. “We’re playing Rebellion Festival this year… and it seems that we’re going to be accepted a bit more by the Punk promoters than the classic rock promoters”. Embracing their outsider status, it inspired Mark to think, “Yeah, let’s form our own little church… And it’s worked beautifully. People are loving it”. It provides a shared identity, a knowing wink amongst fans, some of whom have even ordered bespoke band cloaks for the upcoming tour. “It will look like a very strange cult at some of these shows,” Lee laughs.  (Still no Kool-Aid – just to be clear). 

The album itself reflects this defiant spirit. While singles like the Killing Joke-esque ‘Shadow Walker’ and the genre-bending ‘What Ever Happened to the Old Town?’ have grabbed attention, Lee notes, “Some of my favourite tracks won’t make it out as singles”, citing ‘Hide Behind A Smile’, and the closing track ‘The Prayer’. ‘The Prayer’ is the perfect top and tail for the album, bookending the record with its church-like atmosphere, and the band thrives on this unpredictability. “The only rule was musically there are no rules,” Lee states emphatically. “That’s how it’s worked out… you do it for the songs”.
 

 Covers, Controversy, and Streaming Nightmares

Never shy of a controversial cover, the Pistoleros famously tackled Dexys Midnight Runners’ ‘Come On Eileen’ after being dubbed “the Dexys Midnight Runners of heavy metal” – a tag Lee took exception to (“We’re not heavy metal” ). The resulting track, met with cries of “sacrilege”, became a live favourite, even drawing a hen party to one gig demanding the song as it was the sole reason they’d turned up. Of course they played it, much fun was had and the girls carried on their merry (very merry) way into the night. This time, they’ve revisited Ricky Martin’s ‘Livin’ La Vida Loca’, a song they’d previously recorded years ago and one that garnered nearly half a million streams. It wasn’t without its flaws when the old version of the band first recorded it. “I thought, for goodness sake, let’s at least get it right and put out the version that we want… updated”. Like ‘Eileen’, it’s a track that, despite its origins, fits the band’s flamboyant persona perfectly.

However, the digital age has thrown up significant hurdles. Lee expresses intense frustration with certain streaming platforms, claiming tracks have been taken down and streams wiped due to alleged “artificial streaming” – something he vehemently denies the band can even afford to do. “We can see it clicking around… and we can’t do anything about it because we’re not with a major record label”. He points out the irony of major labels allegedly manipulating figures while indie bands face punishment without recourse. The single ‘Last Train To Nowhere’, despite rave reviews championing it as a “future live favourite”, is apparently showing minimal official streams. “The equivalent I think of about -300,000 streams have gone”. It’s a situation stifling their chart potential, which relies heavily on physical sales from their dedicated fanbase. “If I could pull it all off [streaming platform], I would,” Lee sighs, “but it’s your shop window for a lot of people”.  
 

 New Blood, New Label, New Horizons, Dark Fairy Tales…

Amidst the streaming battles, there’s excitement brewing. Ex-South of Salem drummer Pip Sampson is joining the ranks for live shows. “He’s great,” says Lee, hopeful despite the band’s Spinal Tap-esque luck with drummers. “The live shows will be fantastic, they will be on another level”. 

Perhaps the biggest news is the band’s impending move to Cadiz Music, the former home of Killing Joke and current base for The Quireboys. It feels like a better fit than their previous situation. “We sit more happily in there as a little boutique label,” Lee feels. He’s critical of the UK scene’s obsession with Southern Rock – “I don’t get that… if you come from Walsall, don’t sing about the Deep South!” – and feels Cadiz embraces their “punky edge”. The plan includes a reissue of the current album through Cadiz in August, followed by older catalogue releases and, excitingly, a brand new album already titled ‘Dark Fairy Tales’. The title immediately suggests a continuation of the aesthetic, potentially incorporating the cloaks and maybe even “pointy elf ears”. 

Taking the Show on the Road

The upcoming UK tour is eagerly anticipated, hitting beloved venues like Trillians, Bannermans, the Waterloo in Blackpool, and London’s Black Heart. It’s a chance to unleash the new material and connect with the grassroots following they’ve painstakingly built over the last few years. “It’s just been us, so we’ve really built it up… so thankful that people actually come out to watch”. Despite good pre-sales, the economics of touring remain brutal, making US tours currently unfeasible despite a solid following there. Talk of an Australian tour via Golden Robot Records and potential inroads into Japan offer future possibilities, especially with the move to Cadiz potentially opening new doors.

Lee dreams of landing a major support slot, citing bands like Killing Joke or The Damned as ideal partners – bands outside the “normal circuits”. He laments the rise of tribute bands and legacy acts with dwindling original members, feeling the new generation is being “weaned off going to see gigs”. For Gypsy Pistoleros, the live show is paramount – an energetic, visual feast designed to provoke a reaction. Expect the make-up, the cloaks, the stage props, maybe even a Cillian Murphy mask during ‘The Ballad of Tommy Shelby’. “I like you should leave a gig going ‘Yeah! That was fun!'” Lee asserts. “The worst is when people just leave indifferent… I hate that! You want to be hated or loved, nothing in between”. 
 

Unrepentant, Unstoppable

Gypsy Pistoleros operate on their own terms, perpetually ahead of the curve by recording an album a year, ensuring a constant stream of new music in an era of fleeting attention spans. They are a glorious anomaly – part punk, part glam, part flamenco, all rock ‘n’ roll attitude. They court controversy, battle industry indifference, and rally their devoted congregation with music that’s raw, exciting, and utterly unique. As they prepare to unleash their new album and hit the road, one thing is certain: the Church of the Gypsy Pistoleros is open for business, and indifference is not an option. Prepare for salvation, Pistolero style.

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