Frankie Banali of Quiet Riot – James Durbin Took the Songs on Road Rage to Another Level!

Interview By Robert Cavuoto

 

Quiet Riot has pumped out some great music since the 80s and in 2017 continues to show the world they are relevant with the release of their new CD; Road Rage via Frontier Records.  Led by drummer Frankie Banali along with veteran bassist Chuck Wright, guitarist Alex Grossi, and new vocalist James Durbin are now an unstoppable force in the rock ‘n roll world. With the injection of newfound energy from James, the results are evident on their new CD. Musically, Road Rage offers exactly what you would expect from Quiet Riot; arena ready hard rock with strong hooks and infectious riffs delivered with a maturity in the songwriting. 

I had the pleasure of sitting down with Frankie Banali to talk about their new CD as well as reflect back on the band success from the 80’s with an honest and candid lens.

 

Robert Cavuoto: How did you and James Durbin connect?

Frankie Banali: It’s interesting as when he was on Season 10 of American Idol as I was a casual watcher of the show. Someone told me to check out this rock guy singing on it. I thought he was great, and that was pretty much it; out of sight out of mind. When I signed a deal with Frontier Records for what ended up being the Road Rage CD I was in between singers.  I reached out to James, but he had just signed a residency deal in Las Vegas and wasn’t available. I went ahead to continue to record, and when I needed him to do vocals, he was available. By then he was already friends with Alex Grossi our guitarist and that help make the connection.

Robert Cavuoto: Do you think Quiet Riot has tapped into a new younger audience with James?

Frankie Banali: That’s only been a by-product to some degree. That was not my motivation for doing it. Since starting Quiet Riot again in 2010, there were a number of singers. By enlarge; they were karaoke Kevin DuBrow types that just didn’t work. I decided to shift gears completely and get someone who had a great voice and vocal range because you need that for the old Quiet Riot material. I also wanted somebody who could put their thumb print on the music of Quiet Riot moving forward.

Robert Cavuoto: Can you draw any comparison to Adam Lambert joining Queen and James joining Quiet Riot?

Frankie Banali: I love success stories at any level and to any degree. There are similarities, and I welcome them. I haven’t followed what Queen has been doing with Adam because I am completely and totally consumed with the business of Quiet Riot 24/7.

Robert Cavuoto: Regarding the new CD Road Rage, Seann Nichols sang on the original version of the CD, and then James rewrote the melody and lyrics. Was it that simple of a fix or did you have to record new guitar, drums, and bass to fit what James came up with?

Frankie Banali: Yes and No. Essentially what happened was when we asked Mr. Nichols to leave we thought it was prudent to redo the vocals on the CD because we would never ask one singer to sing what another singer had come up with. I sent James all the music to all the tracks. By enlarge which had been written by me and Neil Citron who is my writing partner along with Alex Grossi and Chuck Wright. So all the music was written in-house so we send that to James and he started writing new lyrics and melodies. What I didn’t do was include two tracks from the first session onto this CD and instead recorded two brand new songs. That’s why I say “Yes and No”, as there are some new tracks but all the lead vocals are brand new lyrics and melodies written my James.

Robert Cavuoto: Did you ever think of releasing both versions in a deluxe package?

Frankie Banali: There is no reason to. What James brought to the table vocally, took the songs to the level they weren’t before. There is no reason we need two records to compete against each other. Even if I could make more money from it, I’m not interested in doing it. I’m only interested in the one official Quiet Riot Road Rage.

Robert Cavuoto: The band’s sound has evolved, grown, and changed from what the band was in the 80’s, what have been the pros and cons of that evolution?

Frankie Banali: The interesting thing about it is that you can’t win in a situation like this with some of the fans. If I had gone out and recreated the music from Metal Health, Condition Critical, or even QR3, there would be the so-called critics out there saying that I’m trying to relive the past. Of course when you do something that is completely different and original while still being Quiet Riot they would say, “This doesn’t sound like Quiet Riot.” I don’t worry about those things and the critics. I don’t want to worry about criticism from some of the so-called fans who aren’t fans of the band. I wanted to go out then and make an honest record. This is exactly what you get. There are songs like “Freak Flag” and “Wasted” which they have some similarities to the older Quiet Riot sound and then you have songs like “Can’t Get Enough,” “Still Wild,” and “Getaway” which are different from what a fan might consider the Quiet Riot sound. If you go back historically on Condition Critical, the title track was completely different than anything we did on Metal Health. On the QR3 record, “The Wild and the Young” which was completely different than anything on the previous two records. It’s no different for us, its evolution.

Robert Cavuoto: “Freak Flag” and “Wasted” are two of my favorite tracks on the CD as James has a tremendous sense of melody.

Frankie Banali: Thanks, I’m glad you are enjoying them. What I really like is his melodies are not cookie cutter; they come from a different place. He is much younger than the rest of us, so he has a different background and schooling. I always welcome that because it’s from a fresh point of view.

Robert Cavuoto: I also enjoyed your documentary Well Now You’re Here, There’s No Way Back. It was intriguing to see the stark contrast of what everyone thinks the glamorous life of a rock star is and the cold hard reality of what it’s like being in a band and dealing with the music industry.

Frankie Banali: When you are a musician or entertainer there is this perception by the fans of us having this fantasy lifestyle that you get up in the morning and your hair is perfect, you have the greatest rock clothes, and you get into a limo to fly off to do a show. The reality is quite different. When Regina Russell, the director of the film approached me about making the documentary I wanted to be transparent. I tell people she made the movie but I lived it. I didn’t veto anything. It’s an honest look at what it is like to be in a band. We are all just human and we have the same problems as other people so. I didn’t see the film until the final cut. It showed the good, the bad, and ugly. There are things in the film that make laugh, feel happy, feel sad and feel uncomfortable but that’s life. Without those elements, it would not be a real film.

Robert Cavuoto: One of the more uncomfortable moments for me was when you met Carlos Cavazo at a festival; your relationship came across as cold and strained?

Frankie Banali: My relationship with Carlos is completely the opposite of what it is with Rudy Sarzo. I have known Rudy since he was 19 and I was 18. We are beyond friends; we are brothers. When it comes to Carlos, we never had much of a relationship not because we didn’t like each other but we have such completely diametrically opposed interests. We didn’t have any of the same friends either. We were never that close and as time has gone on, that gap has widened to the point there isn’t that much of a relationship. It’s sad because I think Carlos is one of the best guitarists in rock. He is ridiculously underrated and it’s a shame we experienced such great things with Quiet Riot yet we have nothing to talk about.

Robert Cavuoto: As a fan growing up in the 80’s and looking at the success of Quiet Riot it appeared as you were having a blast on and off stage. What was it like living that rock star dream?

Frankie Banali: That was the dream I had when I was a kid and saw The Beatles on Ed Sullivan. I said to myself, “That this is what I want to be and that’s what I want to do.” I had no idea that we would ever come close to achieving anything that resembled that kind of success. It was also tempered by the fact when the Metal Health record went #1 in November 1983 we were an opening act for Black Sabbath. That kind puts everything into perspective. When we recorded that record in 1982 and it came out in March of 1983, we thought it was a great record we just didn’t know if anyone else would agree with us. It took a long time for it to climb up the charts. There was nothing else that was rock on the charts at the time. When we hopped over Michael Jackson’s Thriller record and then went on to knock The Police’s Synchronicity from the #1 spot – who does that? Particularly an unknown band on a debut record. It was living the dream; it was phenomenal and fantastic – nobody can ever take that away.

Robert Cavuoto: Do you ever speculating on what Randy Rhoads would be doing to today if he was still alive?

Frankie Banali: For one thing, he may have ended up back in Quiet Riot. Before Randy passed, he was scheduled to come back into the studio and play guitar on the song “Thunderbird.” A lot of people think the song was about Randy dying, but it was originally written by Kevin about Randy leaving the band to play with Ozzy Osbourne. It wasn’t until Randy passed that Kevin rewrote the last verse to reflect Randy’s passing. Randy was an amazing musician and he would have transcended whatever he was doing. He was also interested in other areas of music that he excelled in. I can’t say enough about him. He is “The Guitarist” of our generation!

Robert Cavuoto: “Thunderbird” still gives me goose bumps some 30 years later. I have to say the guitar tone on that song really mirrors Randy’s guitar tone on Ozzy’s records. Who puts that together?

Frankie Banali: That was all Kevin’s doing. He had a great ear for guitar tones because he grew up playing with Randy. Also, which amps were used, and how they were mic’ed; I attribute to Kevin. Carlos did an amazing job on it as well as the producer. But I can testify that was 100% all Kevin’s doing.

 

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